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Session Transcript - Math - Geometry, 5/21/2012 7:53PM - Tutor.comSession Date: 5/21/2012 7:53PM
Length: 33.5 minute(s)
Subject: Math - Geometry


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lily (Customer)
[00:00:00] Find the measure of angle RPQ. i keep getting a decimal and my teacher said that im not suposed to get any fractions or decimals or negatives.

Dan S (Tutor)
[00:00:09] Hello, welcome to Tutor.com . My name is DAN. I am looking forward to working with you today. Is this your first time at Tutor.com ?

lily (Customer)
[00:00:25] no.

Dan S (Tutor)
[00:00:44] Super, I am glad to have you back. Let’s get started shall we? what approach were you taking that gave you decimals?

lily (Customer)
[00:01:43] 2(9x+9)=360-(5x-9+150)

Dan S (Tutor)
[00:02:05] give me a sec to look this over, please...

lily (Customer)
[00:02:09] okay

Dan S (Tutor)
[00:03:03] where did the very first two that you wrote come from?

lily (Customer)
[00:04:23] my teacher gave us that. she gave us an example of each type of problem. she said that you had to multiply it by 2.

Dan S (Tutor)
[00:05:18] I have taught geometry for decades, and do not beleive that the 2 should be in front, in this case.
[00:05:39] in a circle the total of the segments must total 360 degrees
[00:05:47] you have THREE of those segments
[00:05:56] I do not agree with your teacher in this case.
[00:06:03] shall we try it without the 2?

lily (Customer)
[00:06:04] could you teach m? i dont understand
[00:06:07] yes

Dan S (Tutor)
[00:06:30] In a circle like this the sections of the circle must all add up to 360 degrees...
[00:06:38] I see three of those "parts of circles"
[00:06:42] I'll oultline them...

lily (Customer)
[00:06:50] okay

Dan S (Tutor)
[00:07:17] I only see three, do you agree?

lily (Customer)
[00:07:22] yes

Dan S (Tutor)
[00:07:29] let's set up an equation.
[00:07:37] we know that all three must equal 360 degrees
[00:07:47] can you write that on the whiteboard for us?

lily (Customer)
[00:07:51] yes

Dan S (Tutor)
[00:08:19] good, that is the "yellow part"...
[00:08:34] good, that is the purple part...
[00:08:54] yes, that is the blue part...
[00:09:10] PERFECT, that is how it is supposed to look....
[00:09:17] can you combine like terms on the left for us?

lily (Customer)
[00:09:32] yup!

Dan S (Tutor)
[00:10:37] so fine! now "solve" the equation
[00:10:52] by the way, you write VERY well on the whiteboard!

lily (Customer)
[00:11:01] thank you!

Dan S (Tutor)
[00:11:22] correct, continue.
[00:11:51] good....
[00:12:28] yes...
[00:12:56] correct (and not a decimal!)
[00:13:20] now, could you tell me exactly what the instructions were so that we are certain that we answered the question completely?

lily (Customer)
[00:13:37] yeah, could you help me with some other problems? i was trying to do them while i was waiting.

Dan S (Tutor)
[00:13:54] what are the instructions for this first, please?

lily (Customer)
[00:15:31] i'm supposed to do this by wednsday. thats pretty much what she told me. she said that i can go to anyone else but her for help because it can count for extra credit if we work hard enough.

Dan S (Tutor)
[00:15:51] so all we were supposed to do was to "find x"?

lily (Customer)
[00:16:35] no, i was supposed to enter in x for ange RPQ. sorry i forgot about that part.

Dan S (Tutor)
[00:16:59] glad I asked...
[00:17:18] now that we know what x is (15) how bit is the yellow ?

lily (Customer)
[00:17:48] what do you mean?

Dan S (Tutor)
[00:18:10] if we "plug in the 15" here...
[00:18:16] what do we get?

lily (Customer)
[00:18:41] oh okay! sorry, im a literature geek

Dan S (Tutor)
[00:18:58] I like math AND lit!

lily (Customer)
[00:19:07] cool

Dan S (Tutor)
[00:19:47] yep, and what about here???

lily (Customer)
[00:20:08] one second...

Dan S (Tutor)
[00:20:12] k
[00:21:25] that's better, thanks.
[00:21:56] very good...
[00:21:58] now...
[00:22:04] we need to find THIS angle here...
[00:22:19] how can we do THAT?
[00:22:35] how does it relate to the 144 that it bumps into?

lily (Customer)
[00:22:52] what?
[00:22:59] Slow down. I'm confused.

Dan S (Tutor)
[00:23:28] there is a theorem that tells you how to find that blue angel (an "inscribed angle of a circle) in relation to the "intercepted arc"
[00:23:32] remember that theorem?

lily (Customer)
[00:23:49] pythagorean theorem?

Dan S (Tutor)
[00:24:32] no, there is a theorem in your book or notes that states something like "an inscribed angle of a circle is equal in measure to ........"
[00:24:39] can you find or remember that ?

lily (Customer)
[00:25:02] um, she hates the text book so...
[00:25:11] she doesnt really use it

Dan S (Tutor)
[00:25:35] are you provided with a list of theorems, or have calss notes that you 've taken?

lily (Customer)
[00:26:39] yes i have class notes. i haven't learned nay new theorems yet. (i might have just missed the memo or something) i've learned about postulates though.

Dan S (Tutor)
[00:27:08] let me fill you in on this one, it will go something like this....;
[00:27:32] the measure of an inscribed angle of a circle is equal to HALF of the intercepted arc.
[00:27:56] which o0f the three arcs does angle P intercept (bump in to?
[00:28:35] 150 or 66 or 144?

lily (Customer)
[00:28:48] 66 and 150?

Dan S (Tutor)
[00:29:04] let me trace the anble RPQ for us...

lily (Customer)
[00:29:09] okay

Dan S (Tutor)
[00:29:42] where do the "ends" of the anble bump into the circle?

lily (Customer)
[00:29:52] 144

Dan S (Tutor)
[00:29:57] YES!!!!
[00:30:07] now apply the formula what is HALF of that?

lily (Customer)
[00:30:49] 72?

Dan S (Tutor)
[00:31:05] You got it!

lily (Customer)
[00:31:08] i like your 2
[00:31:16] now what do we do?

Dan S (Tutor)
[00:31:17] years of practice!
[00:31:39] we have found the measure of anble RPQ, as we were asked!
[00:31:41] we are done.
[00:31:58] have you noticed that I can't spell angle this evening?

lily (Customer)
[00:32:30] yes i have! im soooo excited! i finally get math! can you help me some more?

Dan S (Tutor)
[00:32:42] As we have come to a sound conclusion to your question, sadly I cannot help you with ahother question and I must log off with you so that I can help other students who are waiting.
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lily (Customer)
[00:33:03] okay, thank you for your help!

Dan S (Tutor)
[00:33:12] It HAS been fun working with yhou.
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lily (Customer)
[00:33:22] yhou too

Dan S (Tutor)
[00:33:26] bye!