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Oct. 4, 2012

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Session Transcript - English - Literature, 9/29/2012 10:48PM - Tutor.comSession Date: 9/29/2012 10:48PM
Length: 41.1 minute(s)
Subject: English - Literature


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Anna (Customer)
[00:00:00] Why do societies create heroes? What values do we expect our heroes to represent? What values did the Greeks expect their heroes to represent? How does the idea of the "tragic flaw" change the way we look at our heroes? Do we look for tragic flaws today? (these questions are technically one question, relating to The Odyssey)

Kristy C (Tutor)
[00:01:04] Good evening! Welcome back to Tutor.com . I see you have been working with the Odyssey. How is it coming along?

Anna (Customer)
[00:01:23] well.. i don't really know where to start with this question

Kristy C (Tutor)
[00:02:30] Well, while it seems that your questions stem from your reading of the Odyssey, it also seems like you have free reign to write an open response.

Anna (Customer)
[00:02:42] yes i do(:

Kristy C (Tutor)
[00:03:13] It might help to start with what characteristics defined Odysseus as a hero. Have you finished the book?
[00:03:22] the epic, I mean.

Anna (Customer)
[00:03:29] lol.. well i read up to chapter 23
[00:03:34] is that good enough?

Kristy C (Tutor)
[00:03:59] Sure. Tell me what you know about him that made him a hero.

Anna (Customer)
[00:04:43] well
[00:04:58] he's really brave
[00:05:13] and strong.. because he left for 20 years to go fight in the trojan war
[00:06:04] and he was faithful ENOUGH to his wife that he left calypso :p
[00:06:09] and circe

Kristy C (Tutor)
[00:06:40] Okay, and what was his tragic flaw?

Anna (Customer)
[00:08:31] im not really usre
[00:08:34] sure*
[00:08:40] maybe because he cheated?

Kristy C (Tutor)
[00:09:14] Do you have notes on or a definition for the term?

Anna (Customer)
[00:09:53] actually i dont..

Kristy C (Tutor)
[00:10:34] A tragic flaw is a characteristic that the protagonist possesses that ultimately leads to his downfall.
[00:11:05] What made Odysseus' journey 20 years long?

Anna (Customer)
[00:11:40] ohhh
[00:12:01] um partly because he was led to calypso's island and she made him stay there for about 7 years
[00:12:10] and also because of the war

Kristy C (Tutor)
[00:13:15] What did he do in Book 9?

Anna (Customer)
[00:14:12] he meets the lotus-eaters and kill the cyclops
[00:14:17] kills*

Kristy C (Tutor)
[00:15:08] Ok, you are right around what I am trying to get you to tell me. Tell me more about his interaction with the cyclops...

Anna (Customer)
[00:16:00] well they find his lair and decide he isn't going to be back for a while..
[00:16:07] so they start eating his cheeses
[00:16:12] which is morally wrong
[00:16:24] and the cyclops comes back to little men eating his cheeses LOL

Kristy C (Tutor)
[00:16:32]

Anna (Customer)
[00:17:01] and then later they escape because odysseus stabs a spear into his only eye, and then he and the remainder of his men hide underneath the rams
[00:17:11] which the cyclops rounds out of the lair

Kristy C (Tutor)
[00:18:28] Who does he say that he is?
[00:18:42] to the cyclops?

Anna (Customer)
[00:19:05] he says he is nobody?

Kristy C (Tutor)
[00:19:19] yes, but then the next morning?

Anna (Customer)
[00:19:10] i can't really remember
[00:19:16] something like that
[00:19:25] he says he is odysseus..
[00:19:26] i think
[00:19:30] after he stabs him

Kristy C (Tutor)
[00:20:32] Yes, and his proclamation is prideful which spirals his travel situation out of control. So pride is his tragic flaw throughout the epic.
[00:21:06] Basically, what you need to do as you proceed is to use these things about Odysseus as your archetype, your baseline.
[00:21:22] Think about how modern day heroes match up to Odysseus.

Anna (Customer)
[00:21:37] ahh

Kristy C (Tutor)
[00:21:50] Think about whether our standards for "heroes" today are similar or different, better or worse...
[00:21:53] Does that make sense?

Anna (Customer)
[00:21:53] but how would i answer the first question?
[00:21:54] yes it does

Kristy C (Tutor)
[00:22:31] What do you think? Do societies create heroes? Or do heroes create themselves?
[00:23:14] Instead of starting there, it might be easier to think about who people in our society would deem as heores.
[00:23:19] Can you think of some?

Anna (Customer)
[00:23:26] well probably heroes create themselves
[00:23:34] firefighters, policemen, etc
[00:23:53] of course anyone can be a hero if you see them as one(:

Kristy C (Tutor)
[00:24:14] Okay, good start. Those are general categories. Can you think of any specific figures in our society who are heroic?
[00:24:18] I agree.

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Anna (Customer)
[00:24:59] the mayor?
[00:25:03] LOL idk
[00:25:16] principal of our school?

Kristy C (Tutor)
[00:25:31] Think about people you hear about on the news or read about in magazines... Are any of them heroic?

Anna (Customer)
[00:26:47] obama?
[00:26:50] possibly

Kristy C (Tutor)
[00:27:02] Yes, possibly.
[00:27:35] So, political leaders could be heroes. What other categories of people do you learn about from the media?

Anna (Customer)
[00:28:36] umm
[00:28:58] people who save other's lives?
[00:29:13] .i really don't know ._

Kristy C (Tutor)
[00:29:19] Yes, you mentioned that with the firefighters and policemen.

Anna (Customer)
[00:29:22] yea
[00:29:27] im not sure :c

Kristy C (Tutor)
[00:29:33] Did you watch the Olympics or follow any of those stories?

Anna (Customer)
[00:30:53] MICHAEL PHELPS

Kristy C (Tutor)
[00:31:09] Okay, great example. What would make him a hero?

Anna (Customer)
[00:31:58] hm
[00:32:40] he inspires people
[00:32:56] he technically doesnt give up..

Kristy C (Tutor)
[00:33:12] Great!
[00:33:43] So you could put him in the athlete hero category, and you could probably think of several other examples that would work there.
[00:34:29] Do you enjoy watching movies or tv shows? If so, who would your favorite actors/actresses/personalities be? Are any of them heroic? Why?

Anna (Customer)
[00:35:14] well not really
[00:35:26] ever since my mom cut the cable i've just been watching news : P

Kristy C (Tutor)
[00:35:51] That sounds pretty wise. So don't worry about that category then.
[00:36:10] Thinking about sports heroes and society heroes is a good start.
[00:37:10] I think you could answer each of the questions above, using Michael Phelps, President Obama, and firefighters/policemen as your examples.

Anna (Customer)
[00:36:58] okay

Kristy C (Tutor)
[00:37:24] How do you feel about that?

Anna (Customer)
[00:37:32] that's fine
[00:37:35] i could do that

Kristy C (Tutor)
[00:38:08] I might work from the 2nd question to the end, and then go back and answer the first question at the end.
[00:38:54] Is there anything else that I can help you with this evening?

Anna (Customer)
[00:39:56] um i think that's it
[00:40:08] thank you very much for your time!! (:

Kristy C (Tutor)
[00:40:42] I enjoyed working with you, and I think that you will do a great job now that you have these heroes to work from. Good luck!

Anna (Customer)
[00:40:55] thank you(: